“It started as a whim in a coffee shop,” explains Joseph Michael, creator of Learn Scrivener Fast, an online course that teaches students how to use the popular writing program Scrivener.
“I had been trying to get a pizza delivery job, but got rejected over and over. I just wanted to make some extra dough on the side.” The pun may have been intentional, but there was nothing funny about Joseph’s financial situation back then.
Scrivener is a popular writing tool for authors. It focuses on structure and editing tools for long-form text. Bestselling novelist Michael Marshall Smith called Scrivener “the biggest software advance for writers since the word processor.” In the Mac App store Scrivener had 688 reviews and a solid 5-star average at the time this article was written.
Scrivener has quite the buzz in the author community, and Joseph Michael noticed it at just the right time.
Hope, Failure, Hope, Failure
In 2013, Joseph attended a financial conference called FinCon in St. Louis. He sat in the audience and listened to speaker after speaker tell stories of how they gained financial independence, many of them through blogging and entrepreneurship.
Joseph was hungry to earn more money to support his family. He was tired of living paycheck-to-paycheck off his salary from his job in the marketing department at a casino headquarters.
Joseph attended FinCon to get some skills and inspiration. Chase will speaking at Fincon this year.
He had tried to build a side income for years. He tried everything, including multi-level marketing and real estate flipping. All through his 20s Joseph was determined to be different and to earn a living independently, but nothing worked out. Eventually he caved to family pressure and self doubt. “It’s OK, just be content with having a job, maybe this was all just a fantasy,” he remembers thinking.
Joseph had a daughter and went back to college. There were many times where he thought he would be laid off from his job. He went through “an intense emotional struggle” and eventually decided again, “I have to do something for myself, I need a financial cushion.”
That’s when he started applying for pizza delivery jobs. He applied to a few and kept getting rejected, because he had no experience as a driver.
“I have to do something for myself, I need a financial cushion.”
There was something still cooking in the back of Joseph’s mind, beyond just earning extra income. Specifically, he wanted a delivery job so he could listen to books on tape to educate himself. The dream was still alive despite all the failure.
After the delivery job rejections, he started researching how people make money online. At first he worried it was all a scam, just like his experience with network marketing.
Then he stumbled on Pat Flynn from Smart Passive Income. Through Pat and others, Joseph realized this online business thing could be honest and real, that you can help people and create win-win situations.
He became obsessed, started following everyone he could find who wrote about online business. He listened to and devoured everything he could find about building a business on the web.
Then he started a blog himself called Efficient Life Skills.
Efficient Life Skills was a start, but it still wouldn’t become the source of income Joseph needed so badly.
He tried to write some ebooks and sell them through his new blog. He saw people making money from ebooks and spent six months building one himself, but it never saw the light of day. He charged $39 and nobody bought it.
Despite this being yet another failure, and a big one, Joseph felt like he had learned something important. He called this his biggest failure and biggest success at the same time. He was determined to try again, but vowed to himself: “no more making stuff before finding out what people want.”
Redemption
Eleven months after Joseph attended FinCon in his home town of St. Louis, he went to FinCon 2014 in New Orleans, this time not as an attendee but as a speaker.
“Last year I was you, in your seats, wondering if this whole internet business thing could work for me. This month my business earned $40,000.”
Joseph tells this story with pride in his voice, and you can imagine why. After nearly a decade of trying and failing, over and over, he was redeemed. His wife summed it up one day: “Wow, this actually worked the way you said it would. The money, the lifestyle.”
After nearly a decade of trying and failing, over and over, he was redeemed.
The breakthrough success for Joseph all came together in about a year. After his “find out what people want before you build it” revelation, he started looking for specific problems people were facing online.
Joseph learned about Evernote Essentials by Brett Kelly and found a new model for how he could build a product.
He followed Michael Hyatt, who recommended a book by Brett Kelly called Evernote Essentials. Joe dove into Brett’s story about how Evernote Essentials came about. He learned that Brett loved Evernote and wrote a book about it. Evernote Essentials became a huge hit and Brett even got a job with Evernote after Evernote’s management read his book. He had sold thousands and thousands of copies of Evernote Essentials. Joseph thought, “why couldn’t the Brett Kelly model work for me?”
Around the same time, he started using Scrivener and really liked it. Then he started noticing everyone talking about Scrivener. It was like one of those moments when you buy a new car and suddenly notice everyone else driving the same car.
Then Joseph read a post by Michael Hyatt titled 5 Reasons I Switched to Scrivener for All My Writing. The post had hundreds of social media shares and, more importantly, hundreds of comments from people with questions and issues about Scrivener. Many of them were asking if a course on how to use Scrivener existed. (Note: it looks as if Michael Hyatt disabled comments on that post. The comments are no longer there, but the social media shares are now in the 1000s.)
Joseph thought this might be the problem he’d been looking for. Here was a specific pain point related to a popular piece of software that he already used, without a solution he could find.
He got to work right away on building a course, but Joseph had another problem to contend with: he had a full time job and a family. He barely had time to write blog posts for Efficient Life Skills, let alone build an entire course to sell.
On top of that, Joseph had burned all his credibility with his family and friends after a nearly a decade of business failures. They wrote him off. He couldn’t stomach them finding out about yet another new business idea.
“Joseph had burned all his credibility with his family and friends after a nearly a decade of business failures.”
For his blog and this Scrivener project, he decided not to use his real name out of fear. Joseph Michael isn’t his real name. It’s his first and middle name. His real name is Joseph Nicoletti.
He laughs about the pen name now, but continues to run with it. He built his business around that name and hasn’t found a compelling reason to switch to his real name. It isn’t a secret, but he worries it might be confusing to people, so for now, he’s Joseph Michael online and Joseph Nicoletti to his friends and family.
The pen name was a fairly easy decision. How to get the work done in between his job and family time wasn’t so easy.
He was killing himself trying to write so many articles for Efficient Life Skills. Before the family got up. Late at night. It was exhausting. Day job. Kids. Family. Then writing late at night.
When he decided to start working on the course, Joseph took a hard look at where he was spending time, and identified a potential opening for side work: during his lunch hour. He decided to opt-out of team lunch hours.
He became obsessed with creating this course. He sneaked away any time he could, even in the bathroom. He sacrificed Netflix, golf, and family parties. His family thought he was being rude. It caused a lot of friction.
He worked in his car during lunch hour. He moved his car to a corner of the parking lot, pulled out his laptop, brought his mic (a $50 Blue Snowball with a sock over it), and recorded lessons for the new course in his Honda Civic.
Creating a perfect course was out of the question. Joseph knew he might never finish if he tried to make it perfect. Instead, he just hacked together what he thought would be easiest. He used screen recordings for the lessons instead of fancy on-camera video. He slapped together a WordPress-based site to host the course. He knew his course wouldn’t look as polished as he would want, but at least he’d get it done.
“Creating a perfect course was out of the question. Joseph knew he might never finish if he tried to make it perfect.”
He created Learn Scrivener Fast mostly during lunch breaks. It took a long time, but day after day it added up. He finally launched Learn Scrivener Fast in January 2014.
Product First, then Audience
Joseph built Learn Scrivener Fast to solve a specific problem, but he didn’t have easy access to the people who had this problem. His blog was on a completely different topic. After he launched his course he had to find his customers.
Learn Scrivener Fast never had an official “launch.” He quietly released it and then started searching for customers.
At first he went on Twitter and searched for people talking about Scrivener, helped them out for free, and then said “by the way, I have this course for sale.” It worked. People started buying his course (which was priced at $39 at the time, mostly due to self-doubt — the course is now priced between $127 and $297, depending on options).
He hustled for his first sales. Then he had a conversation with Brett Kelly (author of Evernote Essentials, who was part of the original inspiration for the course), and Brett told Joseph about using affiliates to sell his course.
Affiliates turned out to be the secret for Joseph. He didn’t have a big audience of writers himself, so he started looking for others.
His first big break came from Michael Hyatt. He met Michael through Twitter, and was very patient. He followed Michael and responded/retweeted his stuff all the time.
Eventually, after lots of Twitter interaction, Michael tweeted this golden opportunity:
@ScrivenerCoach Do you have any advice for my Scrivener workflow? Check this out: http://t.co/ygdnouKHMP
— Michael Hyatt (@MichaelHyatt) November 8, 2013
Joseph responded to Michael Hyatt with this:
@MichaelHyatt Hi Michael. I've put together a custom Scrivener workflow plan for you. Is there a way I can send you the link privately?
— Joseph Michael (@ScrivenerCoach) November 13, 2013
A simple email wouldn’t do. Joseph recorded an iPhone video to show the workflow he proposed for Michael. At the end, he thanked Michael for the inspiration, and offered a free link to check out his Learn Scrivener Fast course.
Michael responded right away. He told Joseph that he had always wanted a Scrivener course, and had thought about creating one himself. He was excited to check out the course.
Joseph got feedback from Michael, made some tweaks, and asked to use his email comments as a testimonial.
Then this happened:
I’m just starting to go through the @ScrivenerCoach course. It’s VERY well done.
— Michael Hyatt (@MichaelHyatt) November 18, 2013
Joseph made 10 sales of the course from that one tweet. He started to realize how important influence and audience size were.
After the tweet, people started contacting Joseph. His first contacts were Andy Traub and Jeff Goins. Andy suggested doing a webinar with Jeff. Joseph followed through and did a free webinar for Jeff’s audience with an affiliate pitch at the end. Sales went through the roof. 35% of people on the webinar bought the course.
Joseph had made an entire months’ salary from one webinar to a small audience.
He used this success to find more and more people to partner with. Joseph would reach out saying, “I just did this webinar for Jeff’s audience, here are some numbers, this could help your audience.”
Sales snowballed from the simple webinar/affiliate recipe. Within a few months of launch Joseph was making several times more from Learn Scriver fast than he did at his day job.
He quit his day job in May 2014 and was earning over $40k per month by August.
Takeaways
After talking with Joseph and reading through this article again, here’s a few things that stick out to me about Joseph’s story:
- His idea came from a real need, a problem people really wanted solved. Like many of us, his first focus (Efficient Life Skills) was about a larger, less specific idea. It’s hard to get initial traction on those ideas. That experience guided Learn Scrivener Fast to something specific, small and useful.
- He started Learn Scrivener Fast by modelling a previous business that resonated with him. Finding Brett Kelly’s Evernote Essentials was an important step in seeing what was possible. This is the reason behind our long Founder Story interviews within Fizzle’s membership training. Do you have a model to pay attention to?
- He found a specific time to work on the side. Simply choosing lunch breaks to work on his side project became an essential part of building his first product. He found time to make this all work alongside a young family and full time job. We talk more about this in a podcast on managing a side project and full time job.
- Making a product first is risky but it worked for him. It’s risky because you might make something nobody wants. Building an audience first can validate your product idea. But product first worked well for Joseph. Nathan Barry wrote a good article about product first profitability.
- For lack of a better term: hustle. He reached out on social networks and got the word out about the product. It can feel awkward. But it was undoubtedly a big part of his early success with this product.
- He didn’t give up, even if it felt like the idea was failing. He fought through so many obstacles and ignored what most people would turn into excuses for quitting.
- Everything’s a gamble. This course may not have worked out. Scrivener could have folded as a product itself. But it didn’t. It was a gamble and it paid off. The same is true with your idea. It’s always a gamble. Our job is to take smart gambles like Joseph did.
Not having enough time or a solid business idea is a problem almost every entrepreneur faces. Joseph’s story shows us how one determined business builder fought for what he wanted until it worked out, which is the only real “secret” to success.
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Such an inspiring story! Fitting the work into the lunch hour really resonates with me. It wasn’t convenient, but it paid off.
The thing I’m curious about is whether going audience-first would have helped or hurt him. Launching to an already established audience would make for more impressive launch numbers, but would taking the time to build that audience have thrown off the timing completely?
I’m a big fan of going audience first, and Joseph in a way was building his audience channel along side the course. He didn’t build a traditional audience, (podcast, blog, etc.) but he started reaching out to people for feedback, and to connect with influencers before the course launched. He had tried the full audience-first approach before, and it didn’t work as well for him. Both approaches can work, and your point about timing is important.
Thanks Andrew! And let me just say that I totally agree with Corbett about building an audience first. By all means start building an audience as soon as humanly possible. That would have only made things a hundred times easier for me.
Since I was moving into a brand new niche I was starting from scratch. New blog, new Twitter handle, new Facebook…everything. I almost didn’t do it because of this. But I’m so glad I didn’t let that stop me from the opportunity that I saw. Instead I decided to start building a new audience while also building my course. I have a slide I use in my speaking engagements that says “Hustle While You Work” – for me the hustle means connecting with and building an audience while you build your thing.
P.S. A great book that inspired me recently was “Show Your Work” by Austin Kleon. He has some great tips about building an audience while creating at the same time.
Hey Joseph,
What a GREAT story! I am curious, when you made the class initially did you do all the video recording/editing on your own or did you hire a pro? If you did it alone was it hurting your ability to get people to purchase? Did you use Screenflow? Any special equipment. I know you mentioned doing audio in your car.
Hey Mark,
Thanks! I did all the video recording / editing on my own initially. I couldn’t afford to outsource anything haha. Luckily I was “good enough” at video production. Not perfect, but “good enough” – that’s important. I used Screenflow with a small portable USB mic called The Blue Snowflake that cost about $45 on Amazon. That was how I produced the entire 1.0 version of my course and it was this setup that brought in the first 6 figures. Doesn’t have to be fancy. Upgrade as you go. Hope this helps :-)
Thanks so much! That helps a lot and I actually have both. I am actually at the “I have an idea” and think there is a demand but not enough of an audience to promote it to but know I really should be building my email list first but don’t know what to write to them about….
I know you’ve been in this spot and been there more than once. I seriously have a picture of some people that have been down this path up in my office at home and you are up there with some others to keep me moving forward.
Anyway, I know you are busy but would love your input on my “idea” before I move ahead as this project is already beyond 50% done before I realize I was doing this out of order.
Thanks!
Also, Joseph, did you just put the classes up on your site through Gumroad or were they in WP Courseware right away?
thanks!
Such an inspiring story! Thank you!
Great article…and perfect timing. Thank you guys!
Thanks for the great article, Corbett, and thank you to Joseph for sharing your inspiring story!
Thanks Kevin! Glad you enjoyed it :-)
Awesome, inspiring story. Question: you briefly mentioned that he was a scrivener user, but how did he make himself an authority to teach other users? Just by researching the questions he found then demoing those features and work-a rounds that could help? Also , its none of my business, but Im curious; is the 40k total revenue or profit after affiliate payouts?
Great questions Dustin. Maybe Joseph can chime in on the revenue question – he wasn’t specific about the figure.
Regarding “authority” – he covered this in our interview, but I didn’t include it in the article. He was worried about how people would perceive him as a Scrivener instructor, given he had just been a casual user. He rationalized that many people just want the information, and don’t care so much about the background of the source. He turned out to be right, and has since built more authority on the subject.
It would be even more inspiring to learn about this. I can see it effecting is reputation to his customers, but it would be even more inspiring to Fizzlers to know that its ok to not know it all to still be able help a community. I think you have a few podcasts on the subject? I know its a question I struggle with a bit. “If Im not an authority, who am i to sell help?” but I think that just curating questions and addressing them provides tremendous value. I know Dane Maxwell would be proud of this story as well!
Dustin,
This is a really keen observation that is obviously coming from personal experience for you in a huge hurdle you either face now or faced before (I’m betting it’s a daily thing for you to face this barrier). I’m so happy to read your comment because it will resonate with people, even if they can’t pinpoint why.
My opinion, and I’ve been wrong once or maybe twice, is at the root of feeling like we aren’t an authority is simply a fear of failure, a low self esteem, or both. “Who am I to be an authority?” Great statement.
Remember that society demands some letters after your name to be an authority or to at least have license to speak. And so it’s our own belief that allows us to feel “not enough” because perhaps we haven’t checked some blocks. It is a powerful argument…until you solve a problem for someone. Then it just doesn’t matter how many letters you have. They were searching and you helped them solve not just A problem, but THEIR problem. That’s huge. I’ll pat you on the back for your degree but to help me solve my problem I will shake your hand and invite you to a home-cooked meal.
Or…I might help be a contributor to a $40K/mo. income stream. Who knows.
Great point you made, keen observation. Overcoming that barrier is one of many that all people will face and anyone that’s ever realized how big the world is can be susceptible to feeling real small. But, as in all things, those thoughts have the potential to hold us back or propel us forward. At the heart of it, it’s what we THINK affecting what we DO. And Scrivener Coach didn’t think he was the best – he just decided to fix this problem, he needed to learn more – SO HE DID!
Way to go :)
Thanks Dustin! And great questions. In regards to being an authority or “expert” I heard something early on that helped me immensely…An expert is really someone that knows just a little bit more than the average user. Now even knowing this I struggled with this big time. It was a major mental hurdle to get over because here’s the thing… I’ve never written a book or published anything other than blog posts and here I was teaching about a writing software mainly developed for novelists.
I found my strength to be in an area of teaching complex things in an easy to understand manner. This is what I focused on. I bought every book on Scrivener, read every article, limited myself to using ONLY Scrivener for a multitude of uses other than just book writing. For instance I used it as my to-do list app, my course outliner, and as a general data base for anything I could find (this sparks creative ideas). I also spent an endless amount of hours studying the craft of writing to understand what writers struggle with the most.
Then…from all this learning and curation I was able to create these tutorials from an overflow of information. I was (and still am) passionate about the software too because I lived and breathed it.
And to answer your last question – The 40K is after already paying out affiliates but before taxes. Hope that helps :-)
Nice work dude – bonus that you’re from St Louis!
The worst thing that happens if the product flops is he missed out on some Netflix and golf. Seems like a high-upside way to use your time.
Thanks Kevin! Good point. And it’s a lot easier to work on my golf swing now that I make my own schedule. Fixing a wicked slice is much harder than creating an online course haha. Go Cards :-)
Loved reading this! It’s inspiring seeing people succeed in the online business arena. It is challenging, but when the sales come through, it’s worth the effort. Hope you keep making money from this and also have something in your back pocket for the next step.
Great article. Key takeaways: solve a problem, create a product, find an audience, hustle, network. Thanks!
Great success story from Joseph.
Problem can be turned become the money by creating a product to solve the problem.
amazing story of determination – and great takeaways
“He started Learn Scrivener Fast by modelling a previous business that resonated with him” – YES!
Love this story! Congrats on your success Joseph. I’m inspired by your story and getting lots of great ideas for my own business!
I love stories like this. Thanks for the hope and inspiration!